- Give unto others as you would like to receive.
- I'd rather try and do things first than defning it especially this paradigm what never really got a real chance with mathematical perfection within the joke of our so called civilization; so:
Would you say you grew up in a lower-class, middle-class, or upper-class environment?
I've grown up in a tiny village in Hungary where my family was poor, my mother worked her ass off in a diary sweatshop and my father was tractor driver in a centralized collective farm within so called communism.
As a kid I've watched the family adults go eye for an eye abusing each other around in the game of bouncing back and forth between irresponsible(drunk, fight, jail) entertainment and surviving, and us, kids, sometimes we had to work for instance in garden all day or scavenging on the cornfields, butchering, feeding or my mother took me and my sister to the dairy factory standing at the production line for all day at weekends and the main motivator for my education was my mother constantly saying that 'You will end up in a similar factory sweatshop just like I do where I've broken physically and mentally - if you do not become outstanding within education!'
Did you attend college? Did you have to work your way through? Did your parents or a scholarship pay for some or all of it?
My mother was paying for my living and and for education I did not have to pay; the 'communism regime' was already 'over' and smoothly started to become the privatized government(towards in fact a capitalized corporate totalitarianism what we can observe today) I even got some dozens of bucks monthly for up-keeping (because of my social status: mother in factory, father already died in a drunk accident but he was already off from practical reality by so referred phenomena as alcoholism) yet I really had to spare my coins to have healthy food sometimes.
So I was pushed towards becoming qualified as much as I could - first as bookkeeper and programmer in a specialized high school and after that I've finished a Bachelor of Science on Programming Mathematics in University of Debrecen and all I've known about my profession in practice was what I learned by myself in summer scholarship and within self-organized groups around the college. My interest was about programming itself, I always had ability to speak on the machine's language, and I enjoyed to learn artificial intelligence, fuzzy logic and to prepare myself be practical in the economic system, and for that I've chosen to master Java&Linux solutions for scientific and corporate($$$!) R&D with edgy buzzword technologies so within that I've specialized and eventually finished in 2001.
Being a pupil did not mean I did not work meanwhile - I had different kind of occupations to cover my expenses just to give some perspective: having glimpses of glamorous time at a mineral water bottling factory production line, for a while I was a car-particle ordering-software specialist with my own driver to move me around to install and modify the systems in the county for a local company but these did pay really the minimum they just could, so I kept focusing on learning and practicing programming and mathematics skills(beyond screwing myself with chasing butterflies in my stomach referred as 'love' between two bloody wild parties at the college).
After finishing the university I already had no problem finding a decent programmer job what I've picked up in the biggest Hungarian business magazine and maybe I was lucky, but I had quite amount of salary immediately right after getting my diploma.
It was very weird mind-state: I was able to just go out and buy any food I wanted to, that seemed like 'freedom' for the first time.
What kind of work have you done?
I am working currently at an international entertainment/media company as software engineer for developing internal business process driven website-development workflow-management systems.
I've tried many different works and lot's of times I've lost my interest to be a programmer corporate slave so I've left the country and my workplaces several times and learned other skills what I enjoyed extensively: arts and music, traveling and different common eastern and western mind-trick techniques in order to become a more unified man who can grasp direct power over himself and his existence.
I've read an extensive amount of fantasy and sci-fi and 'ancient scriptures', teachings wherein everything seemed possible and I was really frustrated because very little I was able to discover from those on this Earth yet everyone always seemed being obsessed with these things - divine knowledge, angels&demons, magic and great powers, space-technology etc what until I've found Desteni, I never really stopped searching, investigating, looking for. I've extensively participated within psychedelics and Buddhism for a while and that seemed really supporting me until the point of facing the decision of letting all go and start Living really or I just recklessly die physically because once one is really putting his/her life on these in all ways - these will always fail. So in 2008
I've found the Desteni message on Youtube because no matter how much I've tried different starting points and practicalities - I've never really stopped searching and looking for a new paradigm.
At Desteni I've found my first REAL education and the re-alignment as Life-interest from Self-interest takes time and courage but this is who I am, this is what I stand for, even when at times I am apparently losing the big picture, I must walk through all my self-created delusions, manifested consequences.
So this finding out the truth, the real and eternal life-changing truth of myself was always my work regardless of how I've seemed, but as long as I was looking for the answer outside of myself - I could not find me - and at Desteni the answer was given, more practically: the answer is always here as myself but I must develop Self-intimacy, Self-honesty, I must explore Self-forgiveness to change and let go the self-accepted limitations what I was not even aware of.
I've tried quite a lot of kind of works, varied from basking on street with music and juggling to working on fields or being inventory specialist at establishment-related industries such as airport, justice-department or even working in art shop, surveying, traveling around, studying alternative communities and lifestyles; being stage-technician or photographer, amateur cinematographer, just to mention some...
However without starting my own business in the system I always ended up working as software engineer for the big sharks as that was(and still is) the best "spent time on job"/"getting money for it" ratio.
Have you been involved in starting or managing a business?
Business of Self-perfection with
So by my own investigation and Self-honest writing (some shared here at ) and that entails and and walking the course at I've found that within spiritual or individualist memes I can not trust as these are always excluding something what is really here as in fact Self on Earth and a real principle for the Unification of Man - nothing in existence should be excluded within absolute Self-honesty - it must be common sense and always as simple as 1+1=2 towards everything and everyone just like the Desteni Principle is:
-Equality and Oneness in all ways I am always equal and one with and what I am facing, experiencing, desiring for, fearing from etc
-Investigate all things and keep what is best for all
-Be self-honest and forgive yourself what you have accepted and allowed to manifest to become aware of your responsibilities and manifested consequences and dare yourself to stop the layers of self-definitions and change and explore practical solutions for self and for all as equal as one as Life within and as the physical.
So it is obvious that we, as humanity are is severe inequality in terms of physical(required) support for instance and those who has no money can not even have the opportunity to participate within the 'goods' of democracy - yet we are all accepting and allowing this capitalistic system wherein the value is in money, gold, profit and entertainment what is apparently of free choice and human right but this is always only promoted and protected by the ones who already have healthy food, water, shelter, health care and basic education.
Because without that: one is striving towards surviving as there is no unconditionally Life-support - a some sort of Maslow's hierarchy of needs - just don't drink and eat for a week and you can have a free choice about let's talk about your love connection karma light or let's drink water and eat something healthy. That's simple.
After visiting some extremely severed, exploited and poor countries around the globe, I've realized that if I consider myself as Life, I must stand up as responsible for those who cannot for themselves because of their financial status especially for those children who will be born because by the lack of money they face extreme neglect and have no choice but fighting and surviving with no rules but what others already keep busy accepting and allowing without real awareness and that is certainly not something what one would want for themselves or for their 'own' children - pre-programming, mass-manipulation and aggressive corporate brainwashing and in fact we are the building blocks of a system what apparently promotes freedom what is only available by money, what is being accumulated at peak points by exploiting the energy of those who are surviving because have no choice if wanting to stay alive.
As I've mentioned: I've grown up in so called the boogeyman for the west: communism - it is the same as current capitalism but with less corporate aggression and more strong government and within communism 'All animals are equals but there are some who are more equals.' - just the same as all others - but Equal Money is not about communism, it is:
- Be excellent to each another.
- Give unto others as you would like to receive.
- "love thy neighbor as thyself"
That's why practical equality within the economic system (eco no me)- that's why an equal amount of money for all newborn until we can heal psychologically the generations what are hypnotized by the competition for surviving through money within a literally cannibalistic system. And THEN we will see if money still required but first things first.
As the current system is not equality within mathematical perfection - as the matter of fact, we can create perfect machines, computers, software, weapon systems with math and science but apparently not within the principle of "give and thou shalt receive"/"love thy neighbor as thyself" - so at least we should TRY first to perfect the idea of LOVE in and AS the Physical as well by mathematical perfection because real compassion is prevention and REAL love should start with feeding everyone's children without the fear of 'I will be no more special and would lose that what I apparently own.' What is fear of change, fear of loss, fear of taking responsibility for what is already here.
No one should really fear from Equal Money except the multi-billionaries who are lost in mind-oblivion. And even they shouldn't - they might lose some numbers within their mind but within mathematically perfected equality no one should - and and no one will be left behind.
It is obvious that by rebelling the current system only the corporations will grow as the government will support them to suppress the rebel-lions more and more with stronger and smarter countermeasures in order to keep the system alive, not the actual living beings participating within it.
Within the current democratic system there is a simple and open way to change everything quite effectively without any abuse:
The One man = One Vote act as 1+1=2 simple mathematical equation.
So I support, promote Equal Money System and I'd rather walk my lifetime by at least 'trying to manifest it' before judging it because how could we already know it's bullshit if we never even tried?
How ever we keep coming up with ridiculous excuses of self-interest until we do have money, we do have food, shelter, education, health care, entertainment - and when one has some tragedy around - then would change - then would feel it is not fair - but in fact this is what we allow in a daily basis all around the planet just like playing the mind-game of 'I am not responsible', 'I cannot do anything' - yet with Equal Money one can really love their own family, their own neighbor and in fact all fellow human beings simply by distributing the 'goodies' within a mathematically provable perfectly equalized Life-support system.
So is a 'birthing tank' for being educated and educating others equally about these principles and re-align our starting point with all life equally as the animals, as nature, as humanity, as the planet etc and empowering ourselves here within the current system as Self-direction, Self-will, Self-honesty, the ability to change by principle of life as well at the same time and nurturing ourselves and each other with a system (within the current system) what indeed seems to be the same as the other multilevel marketing schemes - however there are SERIOUS limitations to make sure one can not really grow over others but limiting the number of recruits: "You can recruit a maximum number of 10 people that choose to be Agents.", because the product is education with real care and one can not really care to support with this kind of education very much people because it takes quite an effort - so if one is supporting more in the system then receives more and can make an income for living - and the money is NOT going towards some greedy anonymous-role-playing 'hiding in the dark' directive board billionaires but to all other 'normal foes' who are taking the necessary steps to educate others just like they've received the same 'equality' education and as it takes investment, time and energy one can receive back equally the same investment even multiplied when supporting multiple ones but the system has the common sense limitation to not support greed only physical practicality.
So for long term that is my business but first I am walking through the course by myself.
(Is this already can be defined as 'promoting my multi-level marketing'? I am not sure - I am not making any profit from it, as I am currently only a 'client' as student but if so, then do as your Quora principles required you to do so :)
And giving an other topic here by myself here as question and answer at the same time as equal as one because it can broad this perspective quite in place:
Let us game for a moment:
The word "perfection" derives from the Latin "perfectio", and "perfect" — from "perfectus." These expressions in turn come from "perficio" — "to finish", "to bring to an end." "Perfectio(n)" thus literally means "a finishing", and "perfect(us)" — "finished", much as in grammatical parlance ("perfect").
To Aristotle, "perfect" meant "complete" ("nothing to add or subtract").
Let's see our manifested perfection a bit more practically:
For instance a B2 stealth bomber costs around $2.1 billion.
I must say, in it's financial budget(limitation), B2 must be perfect within what it's purpose: bombing the shit out of the given locations within perfection.
There are almost perfect computer games or graphics cards(for instance the currently latest video card called Titan containing 7.1 Billion! transistors to render stunning 3D graphics), banking/transactional/sto
There are many human-made perfect systems within the current capitalistic system yet we still delude ourselves that the life-support system itself can not be perfectly best for all - I can not accept it and never will!
Also if we would just write down all our observations objectively about the current human system how it works and why it would be obvious: it is perfect within enslavement and limitation and the right to accept abuse!
So I challenge all 'highly' educated foes all around the globe that if we can manifest perfect systems within the interest of profit - then at least we should REALLY PHYSICALLY TRY to investigate within Common Sense what would mean and require and really entail to manifest perfection regarding to the Principle as Life within the interest of All.
So that's why I am One Vote for an Equal Money System and that's where I stand firmly in and as existence unconditionally because we must stand up for all what is here to entail what really means to be responsible and be able to manifest what is really best for all - because that entails me too equally.
Alright, it's quite a long article but I've checked out that apparently it is quite alright if one answers on a 'bigger canvas' - so I took my time and here now it is clear who I am and where came from and what I stand for.
Thank you very much for this opportunity to share myself here extensively, the English I use is not my 'first language' so that's why I use the words that simply and making some grammar mistakes but I am sure the message is clear.
Enjoy breath and be excellent to all each other!
This is in fact a step within Journey to Life